-- Flat Bed Lab-Turn CNC Lathe - LTF5

Flat Bed Lab-Turn CNC Lathe - Main View
Flat Bed Lab-turn CNC Lathe - with full enclosure and safety locks
Flat Bed Lab-Turn CNC Lathe - Easy access to tailatock end of the machine
Flat Bed Lab-Turn CNC Lathe - End view of the Narrow LTF5
Flat Bed Lab-Turn CNC Lathe - Easy operator access
Flat Bed Lab-Turn CNC Lathe - 5" 3-Jaw Chuck, Toolpost and Tailstock
Flat Bed Lab-Turn CNC Lathe - Rear View with access to electrical panel
Flat Bed Lab-Turn CNC Lathe - Easy access to chip and coolant collection tank
Flat Bed Lab-Turn CNC Lathe - Servo spindle motor and spindle end/bore
Additional Options:
  • · 4-Turret Tool Post  $280
  • · Pneumatic 5C collet  $100
  • · Hydraulic 6" 3-Jaw Chuck $3,950
  • · 5000 RPM (NSK Bearings) $2,400
  • · Siemens 808D Advanced $2,600

  • Automatic Bar Feeder $7,595
Warranty:
- 18 months on the LTF5 
- 3 years total (2+1) on the Siemens 808D Control
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Flat Bed Lab-Turn CNC Lathe

LTF5, 5 HP Servo Spindle

5" Chuck, 4-Turret Toolpost, Tail Stock
Built to high precision standards, the LTF5 flat bed lab-turn CNC lathe is built on a heavy cast base and stand. ALSO, this lathe has the important design feature of a narrow foot print that will fit through a 3' door.  Perfect for small shop settings where you've been wondering how you'll fit a machine in. The heavy, 33" wide cast base on this flat bed CNC lab-turn lathe weighs over a ton.  Get real-world industrial precision results from a machine that has a foot print of under 20 square feet.
The LTF5 has a closed loop system and servo drives - allowing for rigid tapping and spindle location ID.  This lathe comes standard with the Siemens 808D CNC Control with conversational programming and on-screen programming assists.
The LTF5 flat bed lab-turn CNC lathe has the same components and features of our other industrial grade machines - like Schneider electronics, Siemens motors and drives and PMI balls screws. This machine is just designed to fit in small places.  Great for small R & D shops or production settings that are in small, narrow spaces.  Also works well for education and home shops
Order the LTF5 "Lab-TURN" Lathe
And Get These FREE Bonus Items:
LTF5 Machine: 
Siemens Control System (with Registration):
  • Additional 1 Year In-Field Warranty from Siemens USA
  • FREE Permanent Copy of Siemens 808D Simulator
  • FREE Access to Siemens USA Webinar Training Series
Fusion 360 CAD/CAM Program:
Price: $18,979.00
LTF5 CNC Lathe
Flat Bed "Lab-Turn" CNC Lathe
Weighs over a ton - Yet fits through a 3' Door

Heavy, compact production machine with features and capacity to match larger production lathes.  A lot of capacity pressing into a small, narrow package.

Even with its big lathe capabilities - it is designed narrow enough to fit through a 3' door.  We call it the Lab-TURN because it can fit through aisles and narrow spaces and sit well in compact corners where other lathes of comparable capacity just won't fit.

Perfect for R & D prototyping, school settings with limited space or urban production shops.

It's a lot of machine for the price, and it won't take up a lot of room.

Performance Details:
  • Siemens 808D CNC Control
  • Servo Motors and Drives on X/Z
  • Closed Loop System
  • Manual 5" 3 Jaw Chuck
  • Quick-Change Tool Post
  • Manual Tail Stock
  • 50-3000 Spindle RPM
  • 5 HP Servo Spindle
  • Travel: X = 10”/Y = 12”
  • Feed Rate: 240 IPM X/360 IPM Z
  • Efficient Ergonomic Design

Warranty Details:

  • 18 months on the LTF5
  • 3 years total (2+1) on the Siemens 808D Control
New Videos:
LTF5 Quick-Change Tool Post Operation: Machining brass parts using LTF5 with quick-change tool post. Roughing, finishing, external threading, rigid tapping, parting.
Manual Turning Mode: Operate the LTF5 as a CNC machine, or switch to manual mode and turn parts as you would using a manual lathe. Expanded conversational programming capabilities.
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Production Machine - Fits Through 3' Door: The LTF5 is designed to have production grade features, but fit through narrow paths and fit small spaces.

LTF5 - Flat Bed "Lab-Turn" CNC Lathe - Features/Benefits

Lathe Machine - Features/Benefits
Built for Production - Fits Through a 3’ DoorHeavy foundation, precision components and quality design assure production capabilities of bigger machines. Compact design fits into small places - base casting is 34" wide. Good for labs, schools, garages, etc.
Heavy Castings with Cast BaseCompact machine design highly rigid and weighs over 3200 lbs. Very high weight-to-work cube ratio, assuring a high rigidity, even when taking heavy cuts. Amazing weight and precision for small floor space requirement.
Full EnclosureMachine is completely enclosed with a sliding front access door, and access panels on tail stock end, and back side. Coolant and chips are enclosed and properly recycled. Electromagnetic lock keeps operator safe.
1.18” Spindle Bore/5” ChuckComes standard with 5” manual 3-jaw chuck and A2-4 spindle nose. Optional pneumatic system or hydraulic chuck system available. Adaptable for an automatic bar feeder, and live tooling.
Quick Change Tool PostQuick change tool post allows for convenient tooling changes by using lower cost standard sized tooling. Useful in small part run operations, machine shops and prototyping - situations where you are changing tooling more often.
Manual Tail StockWith nearly 7” of travel on the tail stock and 3.2” of quill travel, this manual tail stock expands the capabilities of the LTF5 to allow for turning of extra stock or work pieces.
Solid Box WaysTraditional way design has several advantages - including the ability to take heavy cuts and handling heavier work pieces. Induction hardened and ground for precision and long life.
Center Mounted Ball ScrewEliminates torque on the ball screw - improving dynamic properties of the machine and increasing component life. Also provides better protection of the ball screw.
Telescoping CoversStainless steel telescoping guards provide maximum protection of guideways and ball screw from chips and coolant.
Tool Box and ToolsA set of the basic tools required for maintenance are included with this lathe. Gives you what you need to get your machine up and running, and for routine maintenance.
Foundation PadsHeavy machined leveling pads that adjust the height to keep your machine aligned and balanced. Solid multi-point contact with shop floor reduces vibrations and increases accuracy.
Drive System - Features/Benefits
5 HP Servo Spindle DrivePlenty of power to match the machine’s capacity - has more horse power than comparably priced machines. Capable of rigid tapping and spindle positioning.
50-3000 Spindle Speed RangeInfinitely variable speed ranges, from 50 to 3000 RPMs. No need for changing gears or belts.
Schneider Electrical ComponentsOne reason we can offer an 18 month machine warranty is because of the recognized quality and reliabilty of Schneider Electrical components. Highest reliability rating - highy efficient design reduces power usage.
Feed Rates: 240 IPM on X / 320 on YFaster speeds equals higher production rates. The Siemens industrial control, axis servo drive system and linear ways provide the power and control that allows for higher speeds - many times faster then competitive systems.
Safety/Operation - Features/Benefits
Ergonomic Control Panel and Operator InterfaceMachine control panel adjusts and rotates up to 90 degrees. High tactile buttons, manual pulse generator, and convenient cycle start buttons improve operator convenience, efficiency, and safety.
Manual Pulse GeneratorHandheld pendant that allows operator to be independent from the main control panel. The rotating knob generates pulses that are sent to the machine control, allowing the operator to move the lathe in a predetermined distance each pulse.
Automatic Lubrication SystemLubricates all wear points during machine operation at continuous time intervals. Benefits include: reduced labor, material costs and significant extension of bearing life.
Programmable Coolant SystemControl coolant at the control panel using standard M-Codes. Cycle times can be significantly reduced, while feeding and cutting speeds can be significantly increased. Proper cooling extends life of cutting tools.
Work LightFocused lighting elements increase operator efficiency and reduce fatigue. This light is flicker resistant, waterproof, and resistant to both cooling and lubricants. It is also resitant to impacts and vibrations. 
Tri-Color Alarm LightGreen light turns red when control alarm recognizes a machining error or machine malfunction. An operator standing away from the machine is visually alerted by the activated alarm light when machining cycle is finished or machine errors out.
Siemens 808D CNC Control - Features/Benefits
Closed Loop SystemSystem directly monitors motor position and velocity in real time. The system then automatically makes corrections to assure correct tool positioning. High accuracy and maximum parts quality ensures a minimal rejection rate. Also assures smoother surface finishes.
Siemens Servos and DrivesAchieves rapid acceleration and higher speeds - maintains high torque throughout speed range. Motor is highly efficient - and it stays cool. Quiet at high speeds - vibration free operation.
Ideal for CNC BeginnersIdeal for entry level CNC users, the innovative integrative start-GUIDE from Siemens provides an on-line digital help function on every screen. Helpful instructions are available anytime - at a push of a button.
Simple & Intuitive InterfaceWell designed conversational programming functions and Wizards from Siemens help streamline programming at the control panel. All Siemens 808D controls come standard with this SINUMERIK Operate BASIC functionality.
Compact and RobustIndustrial panel design with hardened features is ideal for harsh environments. Small compact design matches smaller machines tools like the AutoMateCNC line.
USB Connector - Easily Handles Large FilesThis unique Siemens function allows for the streaming of large program files direct from a USB. Large files are no longer a concern - other CNC systems lack this robust level of functionality.
Built-In HelpsSeveral Siemens provided “assists” help streamline programming functions. One example would be Hot Keys. With the Hot Key function, machine operators can easily access commonly used screens using operator defined hot keys.
GENERAL SPECIFICATIONS - AUTOMATECNC LAB-TURN LATHES
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Model NameLTF5LTS5
Price$15,480$19,879
TURNING CAPACITIES
Max. Swing Over Bed10”10”
Max. Swing Over Carriage5.5”5.5”
Max. Length of Workpiece12”12”
Machine Repeatability.0002”.0002”
TRAVELS & FEED RATES
X Axis6.3”6.3”
Z Axis12”12”
X-Axis Rapids240 IPM240 IPM
Z-Axis Rapids240 IPM240 IPM
Max. Cutting Speed100 IPM100 IPM
SPINDLE
Spindle Power5 HP5 HP
RPM Range50-300050-3000
Spindle Bore1.18”1.18”
Spindle Nose TaperA2-4A2-4
Chuck Type5” Manual 3-Jaw Chuck5” Manual 3-Jaw Chuck
TAILSTOCK (STANDARD)
TypeManualManual
Quill Travel3”3”
Quill TaperMT3MT3
WEIGHT/DIMENSIONS/CAPACITIES
Machine Weight3260 Lbs3260 Lbs
Machine Dimensions65” x 32” x 71”65” x 32” x 71”
Shipping Weight3580 Lbs3580 Lbs
Air for Pneumatics90 PSI90 PSI
Coolant Capacity13.7 Gal13.7 Gal
Hydraulic Capacity13.7 Gal13.7 Gal
Power (Standard)220V 3 Phase Power220V 3 Phase Power
Amperage Requirements21 Amp21 Amp
GENERAL SPECIFICATIONS - TOOL ROOM LATHES
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Model NameLTF5LTF5
TURNING CAPACITIES
Max. Swing Over Bed250mm250mm
Max. Swing Over Carriage140mm140mm
Max. Length of Workpiece300mm300mm
Machine Repeatability.005mm.005mm
TRAVELS & FEED RATES
X Axis160mm160mm
Z Axis300mm300mm
X-Axis Rapids6m/m6m/m
Z-Axis Rapids6m/m6m/m
Max. Cutting Speed2420mm/m2420mm/m
SPINDLE
Spindle Power3.7kW3.7kW
RPM Range50-300050-3000
Spindle Bore30mm30mm
Spindle Nose TaperA2-4A2-4
Chuck Type130mm Manual 3-Jaw Chuck130mm Manual 3-Jaw Chuck
TAILSTOCK (STANDARD)
TypeManualManual
Quill Travel80mm80mm
Quill TaperMT3MT3
WEIGHT/DIMENSIONS/CAPACITIES
Machine Weight1500 Kg1500 Kg
Machine Dimensions1650 x 820 x 1800mm1650 x 820 x 1800mm
Shipping Weight1630 Kg1630 Kg
Air for Pneumatics620 KpA620 KpA
Coolant Capacity50 L50 L
Hydraulic Capacity50 L50 L
Power (Standard)220V 3 Phase Power220V 3 Phase Power
Amperage Requirements20 Amp20 Amp

Siemens Control

AutoMate and Siemens 808D
Small CNC Control Leadership
Detroit Machine Tools - AutoMate is leading the way in the development and support of the Siemens 808D CNC control matched with small industrial machine tools.
DMT has technicians and CNC programmers who are trained and proficient in operating the 808D control. DMT offers training classes and individualized training for AutoMate owners and Siemens 808D operators.
Experienced technicians are available to answer questions and offer technical support for your AutoMate machine with Siemens 808D control.
You can purchase an AutoMate CNC lathe or mill with confidence - knowing you will have the support of an organization with relevant depth and experience. DMT technicians are knowledgeable and commited to your machining success.
SINUMERIK 808D - INTRODUCTION
Features and Facts - Advantages of Siemens 808D
DOWNLOADABLE OFFLINE SIEMENS 808D SIMULATOR
Familiarize yourself with the 808D control.
Proof out existing part files.
Create programs away from the machine.
SIEMENS 808D - TRAINING CLASSES
Training Classes in Ann Arbor, MI


Siemens Webinars
SIEMENS 808D - TRAINING MANUALS
The Sinumerik 808D Programming and Operations Manual
SINUMERIK 808D - BROCHURE
Complete Information on the Siemens 808D CNC Control - Downloadable PDF Brochure
3 YEAR WARRANTY - on the SINUMERIK 808D

LTF5 - Flat Bed "Lab-Turn" CNC Lathe - FAQ

Why is the LTF5 lathe called a “lab-turn” lathe?

The LTF5 has the same machining capabilities and tolerances as larger, production CNC lathes, but it has a narrow footprint that allows it to fit through a 3’ door. The “lab-turn” name suggests that it fits well in small lab settings that have limited access and locations that require a small footprint.

Why would I choose this lathe over one of the other tool room lathes?

Even before we were selling CNC machines, Detroit Machine Tools was known for selling quality machines that work well in small space applications. Thousands of Smithy machines are turning out quality parts in engineering labs around the country. The LTF5 continues the tradition by providing a quality CNC lathe that can fit in small workshop settings.

Is the LTF5 a production quality CNC lathe?

Even though it has a small footprint, the LTF5 weighs over 2000 lbs. and has tolerances that match production machines. It has quality components and will hold up well under the high demands of production turning applications.

Will the lathe hold up? Is it good quality?

In addition to the LTF5’s heavy, vibration damping foundation, this lathe is built with high quality components and construction. That’s how we are confidently able to offer an 18 month warranty. As mentioned, the lathe features a Siemens control and heavy duty spindle bearings. It also uses Schneider electrical components and PMI ball screws.

How is the accuracy? 

This machine is designed to maintain repeatability at .0002”. This lathe is also built on a heavy foundation machine base/lathe bed casting design. This assures ultimate rigidity and vibration damping – initially, and for the long-term life of the machine.

What are the standard features? What are the options?

The LTF5 Lab-Turn Lathe has standard specifications that include 5 HP spindle motor, 5” manual chuck, 4-Turret quick-change tool post, manual tail stock and 3000 RPM spindle. Optional upgrades include: pneumatic or hydraulic chuck, hydraulic tail stock, 4-turret tool post, different control options.

Can I set this lathe up myself? Do I need a rigger?

If you have a forklift that has sufficient fork length and load capacity, in addtion to a safety minded and well-trained operator, you should be able to safely remove the lathe from the truck it is shipped on and place it at its intended operating location. Some customers rent fork lifts and/or operaters to perform the task. 

Basic instructions for setting up the lathe are included in the operations manual. Of course, you can always call us with questions you may have.

What’s the warranty? How does it work?

Automate CNC lathes have a 18 month parts replacement warranty. Detroit Machine Tools will send you the proper replacements parts as replacement for parts that prove to be defective.

The Siemens 808D control has a three year total (2+1) “in-field” warranty that is supported by Siemens USA.

How about service, can I do it myself? What if I need technical support?

The expectation is that customers who purchase a CNC machine tool will have the adequate mechanical and electrical know-how to handle service questions as they arise. Naturally, you can call and talk to a DMT technician with questions you have.

If you need technical support beyond telephone, on-line or email support provided by DMT technicians, we can help you find a local technician that is willing to travel to your location to provide assistance at your expense. We may already know of a technician in your area that we have worked with previously.

This lathe uses three phase power. Why? Is there an advantage?

The simple answer is that larger horse power machines operate more efficiently when using three phase power.

The advantage of three phase power is that your machines will last longer and operate with higher energy efficiency. Three phase power does not use more electricity than machines using single phase power. This also applies when using a phase converter – The average 10 HP phase converter runs on around 7 cents per hour of electricity.

I don’t have three phase power in my shop, what am I going to do?

The best solution is to use a rotary phase converter, which plugs into a standard 220V plug and converts power from the wall into the three phase power used by the machine.

If you do not have a phase converter yourself, you can purchase a high quality American made phase converter from us for a discounted price.

This is a simple plug and perform solution for the small shop operator. Watch this video to learn more about setting up and using a phase converter:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJjCQqtEdFU

This video clip shows the Marton Brothers using phase converters to set up their new machine shop.

Siemens 808D CNC Control

The Siemens 808D is a real deal industrial control?

The Siemens 808D is a fully functional, industrial grade CNC control system that uses software based on the same software used in Siemens' larger, more industrial control systems. The difference is that the 808D is designed to be used on smaller machines.

Machine tools with real production capabilities, like AutoMateCNC machines, are best matched with a control system that has the power and functionality to do real production work, just like the Siemens 808D.

(NOTE - PERSONAL CNC CONTROLS: Mach3 and other “personal CNC” control systems are limited and best applied to hobby applications. Personal CNC systems are not easier to use than an industry standard control system, like the Siemens 808D. Also, the application of personal CNC systems is limited).

All AutoMateCNC machines come standard with the Siemens 808D Basic control, which can be upgraded upon request. Other control options include the Siemens 808D Advanced and Siemens 828D controls. Those that prefer using a Fanuc system can order any of our lathes or mills with a Fanuc Oi Mate TD CNC Control.

It says AutoMateCNC machines have servos. Is that true, even at this low price?

Yes, all AutoMateCNC lathes and mills use servo motors and drives on all axes. The biggest advantage of servo drives over steppers is the degree of accuracy and repeatability that can be accomplished.

Other advantages of servos include: Rapid acceleration and higher speeds  2) High torque throughout the speed range 3) High efficiency  4)  Stay cool during long operations  5) Operate at very low noise levels – even at high speeds. Vibration free operation is one important reason for this.

PLUS, this control has a closed loop control system?

Yes, this CNC control is a closed loop system. A servo-driven closed loop system is significantly more accurate than steppers. A closed loop system sends commands from the control out to the machine and then completes the communication process by sending data back that updates the control as to where the machining process is at any given time.

The system directly monitors motor position and velocity in real time. The system then automatically makes corrections to assure correct tool positioning. This assures high accuracy and maximum parts quality. PLUS, it assures smoother finishes and a reduced reject rate.

Does the control have conversational programming?

Yes, you can program standing at the control panel using fill-in-the-blank style forms. Each form has a graphic demonstration of the machining process you are programming. The control interface features include standard programming patterns like bolt hole circles, linear rays, full-contour definition, peck drilling, tapping, etc.

Do AutoMateCNC lathes and mills have a servo driven spindle? What’s the advantage?

Yes, all AutoMateCNC machines have a servo driven spindle, exactly like the spindle drive motors used on larger, industrial CNC machine tools. A servo driven spindle provides much better torque, and assures constant torque throughout the speed range, even at low RPM.

Servo motors with an encoder are able to continually identify the exact radial location of the spindle shaft. This makes the servo driven spindle capable of rigid tapping, a function that most machine operators will eventually find a need for. The servo also allows for spindle positioning – an important consideration when using live tooling.

So, this lathe can rigid tap?

Yes, AutoMateCNC lathes and mills can be easily programmed to do rigid tapping operations.

Does the Siemens 808D handle larger programs well?

Siemens has a unique function that allows for the streaming of large program files direct from a USB. Large files are no longer a concern - other CNC systems lack this robust level of functionality.

Will this CNC Control work with my CAD-CAM system?

Yes, the Siemens 808D control has post processors for all CAD-CAM systems. If you are having a problem we will work with Siemens USA to resolve the issue.

What about training?

When you purchase an AutoMateCNC lathe or mill you receive free tuition (Value $299) to attend a day long basic programming and machine set-up class that we hold at our location in Ann Arbor, MI. Siemens USA also has many training webinars on their website.

I noticed that Siemens has a simulator for the 808C control. Is this helpful?

Yes, definitely. You should take the time to download the FREE Siemens 808D simulator on your computer. Spend some time getting to know the control system. Only with a little experience will you be able to see that the Siemens 808D control is as powerful and easy to use as other industrial CNC control systems on the market.

Many customers continue to use the simulator after they have their machines to develop machining programs while at their computer, rather than at the control panel. Once programs have been written and tested they can be easily transferred to the machine control via USB drive.

Shipping Information

Shipping

The Automate machines are larger machines which require special attention when transporting. You will want to make sure you recognize the exact dimensions of the machine you're going to purchase in order to make this process go as easy as possible. Please click here for machine dimensions (insert link). Due to such a large variation in sizes of our machines, please call us at 800.476.4849 or fill out the online quote form to obtain a freight quote.

Forklift Requirements
  • The length of forks on your machine must be a minimum of 6' long.
  • The lifting capacity must be greater than the weight of the machine you are purchasing.
Air Ride Delivery
Standard Delivery
Standard Delivery
(Forklift and Loading Dock) This delivery method is a standard Less Than Truckload shipment meant for a location that has a fork lift with a minimum of 6' forks and a lifting capacity greater than that of the machine being purchased. You must also have a loading dock capable of driving your forklift onto the truck. If you're unsure of your personnel or fork lift's capabilities, please contact a local rigger for assistance.
Flatbed Delivery
Flatbed Delivery
 
Forklift without loading dock: this delivery method enables your machine to be shipped to your location and removed from the truck by a forklift (with 6’ forks) driving at ground level. Your locatin must be truck/trailer accessible. It is a standard open trailer flatbed truck. Machines are crated and covered with a tarp.
Air Ride Delivery
Air Ride Delivery
Air Ride Delivery
Forklift with or without loading dock: this delivery method is an upgraded package that transports your machine on a trailer using an air ride suspension system ensuring the delivery of your machine delicately and safely to its destination.
If you do not have a forklift or a loading dock, we'd be happy to discuss alternative options with you. Call us at 1-800-476-4849 and speak with one of our representatives to discuss the logistical solution best suited for you.
Shipping to Canada
We use a variety of transport companies for Canadian shipments to ensure you the best possible rates when going across the border. We offer two different options when dealing with customs, duties and taxes going into Canada. The first option is to act as your own servicing agent, we'll sell you the machine, but contacting a broker and paying duties, taxes and fees is up to you. The second option would be an all inclusive package where we take care of everything for you, your job is to prepare to receive the machine when delivered.
International Shipping
For our international shipments we use Mid-America Overseas. We will quote and ship to the port nearest you, forwarding from the port to your door will be your responsibility. You must provide valid contact information and a ship-to address to obtain a quote.


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